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🎙️ Aaytha Ezhuthu Rewatch Podcast | Deep Dive into a Cult Classic

We revisited the iconic Tamil film Aaytha Ezhuthu and unpacked everything that still makes it powerful today 🔥 From Mani Ratnam’s layered storytelling to the unforgettable performances by Suriya, R. Madhavan, and Siddharth — this episode dives deep into themes of politics, youth power, and destiny.


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We break down:
• The three parallel storylines and how they connect
• The film’s take on student politics and social change
• Iconic scenes and characters that still hit hard
• A. R. Rahman’s legendary soundtrack 🎶

If you’ve seen it before, this is your nostalgia trip. If not, this might convince you to watch it 👀

🎧 Tune in now and join the conversation!

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I mean, you could really think it's a new cover.

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True, actually. Like many so like, you know, parking could have three periods panake.

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It's like Surya.

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Yeah, Suria is the hero on the one of the heroes that you don't know. So it's uh you are starting to put it.

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Yes, yes, yes. And um honestly, can I wear three years in the pan pathaga?

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Yeah, uh really khat. We never talked about the either.

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No, never, no. Because uh personal it could have been a newcomer movie. Yeah. And I mean, okay, Surya Amdalka period started, but a year before he did Kakakak. And was his breakthrough as a commercial as well as an action hero. And um and then one year after Gajini Vandada. So he had like on the three years, he had like three big, big hits, yeah. With Kakakaka, either and Gajini Vandam. Yeah, that was his like really his prime because I think so between Kakakaka and Varna Mayram Yeah no, even Ayan Avavan under six, seven years he was like really really on top. Yeah, singam and then Urla Mar even then Apharam. With Matran, his downfall began. It was like ten years on top, and on the span um was on the time where Vijay had given a lot of flops. And either can I tell you but uh in the Padama Puri Guruvainalandal, it's uh introduction, Idlians in Ripan, um Partival. Um, or Paramanavandal called Roshamon or Japanese movie, and the Paramatha pair one Akira Kurosawa Miskindal and Kurosawa is like you know regarded as one of the greatest filmmakers of all time. And up 50, 60s, at the time where in Japan Hiroshima bombada uh Nagasaki and Hiroshima and uh we are talking like a few years after that, after that nuclear bombing. And uh Kurosawa and the Patatla, Rashoman Patatla, or murder under Nanakum. So we're talking like eight years ago, seventy, eight years ago. And a part of the murder under the money. I mean grandparents ten, fifteen by teenagers. Grandparents, teenagers, and on the murder, eyewitness. I think it's not a parent. And that's like the first time in cinema, mate cinema, the first time, and the name investigate paneker, interrogation paneker, or a murderer. And sometimes even contradicts. If a non sold or mark, ni soldum, non-sold rather kum, or some word or perspective. Yes, word or perspective. And that was like the birth of you know on the multi perspective, on the hyperlink cinema. But it's like, you know, 1950s.

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I mean in a visual Sari Ilatium on the movie.

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Yeah, movie, yeah, yeah. And uh that was like you know, on Thorakam on the Multipuli Mari um for on the hyperlink, different multiple perspective cinema. And um I think other basement virumadela mandu. And the thing was on the Roshamon Paramirkalo, and the Roshamon effect and sold away, and the paratlana mandadu. And in the Roshamon effect, one day you can even like apply into social life. If a real life we have like if an angle muntiparam, or cinema poet, we we still have different perspectives on. Yes, but even though we saw the same thing and uh uh Tandai uh Tandiramanda I think it was 2000 uh 2000 or 2001 or Mexican phone, it's called uh Amoris Amoris Perosunder. I don't know, maybe Sudir and uh on the segments ever sixty minutes with Sudhishani was under Tamil Prabhana Rotterdrah. Okay, he's a screenplay writer. Yeah, he has written um Sarpata Prambra. Okay, uh Tangalan Ali repair uh okay. He uh Kanta Averan. Okay, yeah, Tamil Prabha. And he's like our uh uh lyricist as well, and I think. And I won in the Amoros Persapitical, the Padre um I think I had the Paramulatinikam, I would prepare on the Alejandro Gonzalez Signorito. I remember 2015 Bert Manka, he won the Oscar for uh Best Director. Okay. And uh year after he won the best director award as well for the revenant. Ah, yeah. And the Paratlan Leo DiCaprio first and only Oscar till date after 30 years, which he did like moves like I saw Shutter Island or Tandilamakamul. I was like, Oscar Kirchner.

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2010.

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Surit is ten and three year. But yeah, so in Yaritu and the Panana, Amoro Sparos, other than a torakut or accident on the Nagum. Yeah, or car accident. And on the accident, uh there are like three peoples, or hitmen, like professional kill ponder, or model, and or putting on them, which is involved in dog fighting. Okay. Away moon to wear a sutitan in the padam in Narakum, I went alive, put in the accident, and in the paddle, Kamala House and had the idea. Uh on the Paratan appear would be uh would have been Moo. Moon, maybe Moon Moo, I didn't moderate the. And uh Moo and a pair with Chatu. And then uh Maniratnam thought like um I don't know why he stepped out of the project here in a three year or whatever. I think because he wanted to do something else around Kamala, Kamala. And um Sunday on the middle. Like final exile on the and in the same year both announced were moving. Kamala did Virumandi, Maniratnam did either and both movies same year Lavandada, the Rashomon effect of the Virumandila or Sambaakam, Ara Suti commander perspective and Pasabhina perspective. Pasodinda perspective in the perspective and the Italy perspective in Suti then and the Virumandi Panama. Yeah, yeah, and either to Paratla, it's the same. Ah, mate spoiler. Ah yeah, spoiler. What spoiler. I don't like Sita. I don't like Sita. No, in the param, I mean the paraticum I I can imagine there are a lot of lot of people, a lot of Martin in the Partha. And uh Torakatloro Axirundum, uh Madhavan uh who played Ingushaker, uh Suria on a character Michael wasn't the Sutriver on the bridge there, and Siddharth uh Arjun played whenever Avarandar or Monkey Madharia on the bridge there in Nipper, and then Sutton uh Surya will like to fall into the into the into the sea river, whatever. And then other moon. So in Bashaker, Michael wasn't and Arjun Nakada. And the mud in the padam pak I really liked it. And then I had a fear if a revised panaker and a celebration put a putikampoita and lapada in the deeper out of poekamudal. How did you like it?

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Idelt. I think now and the padam I uh patran or four years from Covid to let them patrona manirat and ella padam pakika. I didn't like to.

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Oh yeah, you did like rewatch every month.

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Every month rewatch and a good first time. I think even Idelt was one of them. Like, and um and I go to like Manira, screenplay because I want the character complicated relationship, uh even on the Urlayer and Affair, Talabadila and the Amma Padana Vice Pull Petha, it's a screenplayer around the complicated screenplay on the game. Simpler on the emotions like other king. But either love, I think I would say first time around the screen player or difference cinema, it was really new. Maybe the other senju but on the or mainstream, and even okay, upper they were not like uh so big stars, but on the moon period that even okay, Sitar was a new guy, he was like a new company.

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No, the Maddi was a big star that was.

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Yeah, Maddi was already on the way. And Suriya me, as you said, he came uh after Kakak. So peri hiti on padam. I think I think ECA a peri actors on the okay.

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The reason why Surya said yes is like uh assistant um 80 for the first time. And Surya said like um teacher phone panaka, student solitude.

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Ah, okay, yeah, because I liked it very much. Okay, on the first, especially first time. But first time on the okay, the hyperlink is a opening, even on the first scene part, that's an intermission part of the reveal.

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So flashback one that intermission and a pore do uh.

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Yeah, put it on the Suttiva. It's like Upuri Poal Padam. And the middle of the film will be not like on the on the curve, it will be like Konya Mudal. Mudal yeah. Yeah, and and sila scenes one or patupan bandum, but veramari when the windaricum, I think Maniratamito different approach, I liked it very much.

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And on the combo, like really good acting on the dialogues, I think Sujata was a very good thing. Dialogue special, especially Michael character dialects.

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Um Anna and the Kumbo and the Modern and Mirajas. Yeah. I think uh the movie on the I think controversial.

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Yeah, it would been regarded as a toxic relationship.

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Yeah, other than money. It's like other update life light in the rumbo cast. But I would say I would say this one of uh money in the weakest film.

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I am I am ready to excuse everything everything.

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And uh, uh cartilage, I've never feel like yes, he's like sorry to say an asshole. Yeah, then like he's even though our karate portraying panel. Like she will he will mostly put a silapana, mostly put her in the first place. Yeah.

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Relationship same. Yeah, and on the modern character and rumbo rumba print uh Suria than main in the particular than main. That's a thing. That's a Sitart our command than the murderer, you don't recommend our kind of the Karamunik. Like Modern Nomad Urkar. So so Adnana and the only Suria than Maina and the Alam, and the Modern decide to put me up.

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And then after that, he never did something like that. But maybe closest with the Vikram Vedana, are they like really big cab or iron kilometer?

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Vikram Vedana, he's the hero, man. We are like Nangal Vijay is other villain. Nang the Vij and the Pakan Rupert. Yeah, yeah. But that's like how Pushkar guy played that. Wrote on the movie. Yeah. And the closest would be like Vikram Veda.

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Or on the Thumbbi, Seaman.

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Like, I think 2007, 67, on the 6'7.

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Okay.

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It's Bhavana, right? I think Bhavana, yeah. Up what a Maddie Solid Pair, um Seaman approached him, and then um uh Maddie Solid Pair. Seaman had like a vision. Okay, or Thambian ever real life time, Thumbnail Cooper. Maddie would be like um uh Maddie Kuttuaram Murdele, Severam, Adi Param, Poaram, and then Simon would be like um oh nala non early pondering, and then Maddie Orkason Nan early on the say ele, Ningle upon that's true actually. Yeah, and then Seaman solver solid. And in the in the Idila Park, um you could really see that Matt is a damn actor, man.

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Yeah, really good actor.

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He's a really really good actor. Uh Malayaka, I think he would like uh Mira Jasmin Adiper and wrote like Kondo Mari Solver Inda Ulakama, Enna Maria, Enna Singer. And in Bashaker, he had Avata character is like he's full and full bet. Yes, he's not really a villain. No, no, a villain and the cool and Kazakhaga.

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Yeah. You mean uh Madhavana? Yeah.

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Erendal he had no, you know what is the reason why he would like step into politics? He's not really interested in politics. You don't care actually. Only because he sees and either a costing money rather than the solar core negative statement.

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You never expect that, you know. And how do you solve politics on the RSL on the circuit or the source something in the solid of the city politics?

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Yeah, and then Taludur.

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Yeah, on the Randi Partaver. Siddhart was not a big star. I mean uh it's like really cool that he said yes. Yeah. Up a role like a role like acts a panny.

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But I think even it would be like uh one of his first acting uh act panel. No, not that director never actually established.

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But I think no. There are few guys. So Vikram said no. For Imbash character uh Vikrathan uh Kurutada, but he did Sami at that time.

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Okay, I think he was understanding.

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And it's like it was uh Siddharthan character uh money approached um Iver Srikant.

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I think under Pretchanad, because Srikanthan poem would have that. I think Mani said like Balkill or he didn't do it after it.

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Imagine he would like one of the few guys who did with Shankar and Mani Ratamur movie.

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Sit uh Sitar Shrikana Shrikant. Shrikana.

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And Siddharth as well.

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One guy who did it.

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Yes. How mad he did not? Yeah, Shankar say. So Kala Kolo poem. So Inba Shaker, uh Avatan first first arc in Bashaker. Yeah and Maniratna Mandiran the colour theory uh apply one year. In Bashaker red, uh Michael green, and Arjunka blue. And the red inbasheker is like passion, but the Mirajasminik or Avat or first mostly, not every time, but mostly first place. But red is also, you know, anger, fire, uh covam, or runum.

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I think on the on the fire and revision, I was inbicer, I don't know. I mean the room on the red color painted almost red to put a company to repeat, other cylinder company and I were on the uh on the bridge scene on the Mukumana scene, uh Suria fire bundle. Firebone. So, Ella on the colour of it.

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Time illness. I think demanded. I think people have like a very short attention span.

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I think that's the issue. But yeah, like overload detailing.

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And uh opposite Michael Michael and middle middle segment on the Michael. So uh Surya one the full and full green. Green, yeah. But not all the time. Yes. Srinay then the Upuriana colour like dark bluish navy for black marriage and uh green and alien nature uh ground.

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Actually, new on the uh red pot.

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And other coda Michael character was like, you know, full and full, like on the full testosterone.

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Testos that I would say an Rumbo puts a character in Michael the character, Michael. And our beginning, and the political.

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I don't uh fully accept on the explanation, but aver Avat Par Viler, yeah, love wandal science. It's a science, it's science hormones which are hormones, chemistry, other cavalry and like Isha Dial would be like, no, complete bullshit, man. That's not like the emotion I've been to. And Surya and the character, it was like refreshing because I think he was 28 at the time, so still very, very young. And the upper character, I cannot imagine Surya will play like play Upuri on the watermen and Sarah and reference. And I got why Algebra did this, but it's uh different non Bhagavan Padam Meritangum non Bhagaman.

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But yeah, three micliganda. Yeah. I would say other on the green and then he will be like on the nature of a connect on the other on the song Lam are on the other USI. Uh uh yeah, I think I think on a mass scenes and Soleika, Mike Ligam mass scenes only.

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And I mean the the mo po most powerful scene is uh election and dream in him and then other and then he would be like just he would have like milked it on every situation of birds. And then Suria would sit on the parliament or on the room and everyone would be like, white shirt, white shirt, white vesti and repertoire something like blue. Yeah.

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It's like I would go full and full mass scenes. It's like on the youngsters, uh Michael. It's a real uh person inspired in the colour. George Reti. George Reddy George Reti. I've teamed a biopicer, yeah. So I've got a base panel.

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Actually, I'm not sure.

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I mean, like, George Retire.

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Very young, it was like twenty-six or something. So I and uh blue board of the killer. The most other like unnecessary feel panavan the siddharda arjun character. In my opinion, uh the siddharda character is like the most important one. Because he's blue, he's he represents blue, blue and infinity, floating, water, water, um you look on the under depthness and the unknown things explore. And Mani Ratam is like doing he brought on the character burnt, um, because it shows us politics, and you put your water on. And he's like showing you don't have to go full into politics, man.

SPEAKER_00

But you should have the knowledge, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You should have to be like possessor, basic knowledge. And Siddharth Mulamakatara, because Siddharth is blue, yeah, is why is uh is water and water illumal booming one the water. And who is booming? It's Surya, it's my chamber. Sharia Nasa Scientists IP and the syllabus to put Eripan's environment which is a good one. And uh he would be the only one Surya Galaxy. Even though I have no idea, no knowledge about about politics. And what happened?

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Attack.

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Attack. Water fire a close panel.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. An air fire?

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Yes, fight trickle on the uh Napier bridge.

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And intermission. Imagine like and even in bakan, jail and the verwe, cut a seley.

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Because he lost the game.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he lost the game.

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Comedy ladder, he lost a game three panapod and and Arjun Arjun Mandada Karanamanda. Lori on Veram because it wouldn't suit his character.

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And Michael Solirpe, and Dedri kneela like confidence.

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And uh Suriakuda on the jail class. He would like to explain theory. So I'm not a physics expert or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, of course.

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And on the grand unified theory, or even a space, the four major forces under strong force, weak force, electromagnetic force, and gravitation. And in the G U T Grand Unified Theory, on the gravitational, they explained that strong force, weak force, and electromagnetic force on the Big Bang, 13 billion years ago, up on the Big Bang Natake in the Moon force, or force. That's like the theory. And Big Bang Naranda Praver, 4 billion years. And universe on the uh cool Aek Big Bang on the Kanaka energy uh it was very hot. And up a cool down A very force in the moon to force a pinjibona. Strong force, weak force, electromagnetic force. And Suria Mandi Ravande on the equation. And then on the theory, either paneke, strong force is uh in bashaker, erandal fire is strong strong. Weak force Nisona Mari, Sinka, and a sintard. Electromagnetic force is Michael, why? He is like attracting everyone. People will be like very amazed of him.

SPEAKER_00

And he is like on the uh on the uh Michael Adana, may attract moon debate life may collapse.

SPEAKER_02

Michael will be the magnet, of yes. And physics also rather when there is high energy present, yeah, you can space energy. Strong force will be weak. High energy very strong force on the weak at the same time, weak force and electromagnetic force on the strong. Exactly. The last twenty-five-thirty minutes, in Basheker, Kuranja. He will be like peak, energy level. And a paint full energy, avert energy level, Arjon and and Michael energy level one couldn't combine man complex physics theory or simple and the part of the card. That's like crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, crazy, I think I would say.

SPEAKER_02

I mean there may might be, you know, thousands or millions of different perspectives, but the moon to the earth, moon to moon to be even on the third moment on the sitar and the visheta I felt like he had the biggest character on the padla.

SPEAKER_00

Upon the you will see uh he will he's actually really selfish on a character. He don't care.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, train. No, no train.

SPEAKER_00

I uptrish it. And he will be like uh very selfish. But up on the IES party, but he don't care. He wants to go to US. US, yeah. And he meets uh Trisha Trisha is also a Sivasil and the other. And I think the water on the uh element of the contact. And even Sitarla, uh he will like uh selfish and a guy. But our one but he would like uh on the Trishan Avenue relationship, it looks like it could not happen. Because I'm not gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_02

Money was foreshadowing man.

SPEAKER_00

And then Avekon the uh thrishava go he becomes like I ran the selfish buttiver. I run the um and the Surya would say and the carelessness.

SPEAKER_01

So, yeah.

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But uh parents will be like a wholesome moment on trickum.

SPEAKER_00

Sitar will say like now like an arc on the proning and no prior and an arcil by the other rumba put shame was like our blue dance on the bridge on the cardassi bits in there, you will see Sitard will have her green shirt on the colour of uh Surya Michael.

SPEAKER_02

And Michael will be wearing like blueish on a blueish.

SPEAKER_00

And I mean, we'll put it like we do that.

SPEAKER_02

And even uh Raviketchandra uh cinematographer and inbound uh segment lay would be like very hectic. And the camera uh handle will be like hectic, hectic. Then my kind uh uh segment where it's like very strong, smooth, smooth, and you it would be like you know, on the very determined and sitart and a very childish behavior.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the love where it's a little bit song, he put it on Kamura. Yes, crazy.

SPEAKER_02

And that's the thing, you know, and the uh Ravichandanan Adalavandan, he understood fully uh Maniratnam's vision. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh dialogues could I think even Bhadaraja Huda Mad eat or so uh Vera Artuvutal Marantana Vulandram. It's like he's referring to to Michael. And uh end the Gabaran or a petinang kaikele Talibur. Talebar Talibar Petit Kaikele. Initially Mani Ratnam didn't want to include any songs. And he heard it like no man. And then uh soundtrack send him, and then he showed him uh Mani Kartaker Money Praudan script level songs include and every three um the edla moon over iconic songs could repeat Sandakoli song for Mirajas. First song and then Michael Janaganamana and uh Siddharth Yaki.

SPEAKER_00

I think Michael Gamanda random songs are a love song on the AR and background.

SPEAKER_01

It's like very underrated one.

SPEAKER_02

It's almost nearly perfect movie, man. It's very it's really, really underrated.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because it's a money written movie. Yeah, it's a money rather than film, but I think it's not iconic money.

SPEAKER_01

I think money rather than three other.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, then and the meta film go to the shadow because okay, man.

SPEAKER_02

If I were a director, I would would have been like the best movie on a career. Because all the other movies are extraordinary.

SPEAKER_01

Extraordinary, yeah. But Mani Ratham Patna, yes word or movies random moves.

SPEAKER_02

It's like was like wasn't that even bad. Oh yeah, but yeah, I mean, hey man, forty-five years, ten day random movies. Okay, bro. Even Messi misses some penalties. So I think I say Mani Ratham is the greatest of all time, man. It's the greatest of all time. He's the greatest of all time. Good parameters.

SPEAKER_00

Greatest of all time.

SPEAKER_02

In our Vandalum, Mani Ratan. Forever in the past, in the present, and he's the greatest ever.

SPEAKER_01

Love you, Mani. So I think I think for the perspective of Paraguay, Sonia television. Yes. So in a pers perspective.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, then I'll I mean Nanakuda penis on your paper and sitarna either park. Yeah, we watched the same movie. Ni varama unak other sitar than either person, nan varama, ni varama. That's not my that's good. Maniratam did everything on purpose, man. Yeah, other than art. Everything coincidence in there. It's like very well planned and executed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Where else it's art. It's an emotion. No, it's not a third. It's it's art. I don't care. Movie is an art.

SPEAKER_00

And we have the privilege to enjoy it. Enjoy Panum.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. So hand works on Mandame. Anyone.

SPEAKER_00

Anyone.

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We have like two veterans, two sh two Tatas. Avem almost. Yes. And hope. I think this is the perfect moment to close this episode. Close this episode. Yes. Thank you very much. Write us on Spotify and mean to Sandi Kimbari. Ungled.